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kowalskil July 25th, 2011 08:06 PM

Two puzzles about Russia today
The 70th anniversary of the German attack on the Soviet Union was on June 21. On that occasion I visited many Russian websites. What a surprise to find that both communists and anticommunists glorify Stalin in today's Russia.

Communists remember him as a great Marxist ideologist, as Lenin's partner, as a leader responsible for collectivization of agriculture, for rapid industrialization, and for merciless destruction of traitors, especially within the communist party and the military, in the late 1930's. Briefly, they glorify him as the leader of the Soviet proletarian dictatorship, and as a military genius responsible for the Soviet victory over fascism.

The anticommunists also claim that Stalin was responsible for the Soviet victory over fascism. But they totally ignore his communist ideology, and the brutality he used to impose obedience. Logically, the attitude toward Stalinism should divide communists and anticommunists. But in reality it seems to unite them. How can this be explained?

And this is not the only puzzle. As some of you probably remember, I wrote a memoir about life in the Soviet Union during the first year of the war. It can be seen at

OOP, I am not yet allowed to post a URL.

Thinking about the approaching 70th anniversary of the Great Patriotic War--that is how Russians refer to their experience during WWII--I sent the above link to perhaps as many as 20 editors of Russian newspapers, giving them permission to translate and publish my memoir. Not a single one responded. How can this be explained?

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
Professor Emeritus

OPPS, another URL removed

Jennifer23 July 25th, 2011 09:58 PM

Ludwik, it's great to see you here again! I'm Jennifer, the Godian. But, history is strange. Stalin's history is interesting, but I've talked to a Jewish friend of mine that said that Hitler screwed up. Instead of trying to rid Germany of Jews, he sould have recruited them for the bomb. He said that Hitler was intelligent and a very emotional speaker, but had the flaws. Richard Nixon - very intelligent but with paranoia. Jimmy Carter's ideals were great, but circumstances prevented him from realizing them. And then, there's George W.Bush - no excuse for that guy. Good to hear from you again!

sistergirl July 26th, 2011 11:33 PM

Thought this posted, but didn't go through...

What do you mean "he should have recruited them for the bomb" Jen?

Jennifer23 July 27th, 2011 09:17 PM

Hi Sister. I shouldn't have put it "the bomb" thing that way. My friend, Gary was making a point about Hitler, and that if he wanted to actually take over the World at that time in Germany, he should have used all those brilliant Jewish scientists to help him.
Well, luckily it didn't work out. The VW came out under Hitler, and that worked out.
Nixon started the EPA and had more civil rights legislation passed than LBJ. It's interesting that people that have political power can also be very flawed.

sistergirl July 28th, 2011 12:39 AM

Because they are all people first.

Wolf_angel July 28th, 2011 08:26 AM

Er Go able to do and be stupid at times! Being human only and truley means we are flawed. Sometimes its apparent yet other times its not.

sistergirl July 29th, 2011 12:00 AM

hey...there she is!

Wolf_angel August 7th, 2011 08:23 AM


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Wolf_angel August 9th, 2011 08:18 AM

I have been here just busy with college paperwork! :)

Jennifer23 August 10th, 2011 09:14 PM

sister, Wolfie and I have been back and forth on these boards for awhile now. Hi Wolfie!

Savanah August 29th, 2011 10:48 AM

The sad thing is that communism actually got lost in the melee of brutal dictatorships. Communism is not anti-democracy, but a system of economics that prevents the kind of concentration of wealth in the hands of the few like we are currently experiencing world wide. And the end result now we are experiencing the total collapse of the global economy.

I live in Santa Cruz CA and there's a movement here for localization - local banking, local currencies, local businesses, gardens-no-grass, etc. Does anyone else have ideas or experience with localization programs? We need to share our successes and ideas and spread the wealth.

kowalskil August 30th, 2011 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Savanah (Post 64800)
The sad thing is that communism actually got lost in the melee of brutal dictatorships. Communism is not anti-democracy, but a system of economics that prevents the kind of concentration of wealth in the hands of the few like we are currently experiencing world wide. ...

What does a typical American billionaire do with his wealth? I guess that most of it, perhaps more than 95%, is invested. His standards of living are probably not very different from those enjoyed by top managers in the former USSR.

Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)

Wolf_angel August 30th, 2011 09:40 AM

Perhaps yet if they are like that teacher who gave back his benefits and money towards his community things would be different. I agree we shouldnt have a monopoly on who has all the power. It needs to be more diversified and thus helps the community, state and country.

Jennifer23 August 30th, 2011 10:47 PM

Kowalski, I totally agree with you. The thing that I don't understand about this country and the world, is why professional athletes can make millions of dollars and teachers are struggling. Shouldn't we check our priorities?

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