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kowalskil November 16th, 2012 03:04 PM

american election system: fair or not
 
Electing the US president; how to


To simplify the matter, assume there are only 7 states

State A counts as 5 votes (based on population of that state) Majority voted for X
State B counts as 4 votes ( based on ...). Majority in that state voted for Y
State C counts as 9 votes (based on ... ). Majority in that state voted for X
State D counts as 6 votes (based on ...). Majority in that state voted for Y
State E counts as 14 votes (based on ...) Majority in that state voted for X
State F counts as 6 votes ( based on ...) Majority in that state voted for Y
State G counts as 21 votes (based on ... ) Majority in that state voted for Y

To summarize:

X received 5+9+14=28 votes and Y received 4+6+6+21=37 votes. Y is the winner.

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I do not know why this system is called "Electoral College." In fact, the word "college" confused me for a long time. What does it have to do with colleges in which we study?

Suppose the president is elected by the sytem called "popular vote," used in some other countries.

In that case votes of individual citizens are counted, as illustrated below (this is also a simplification).

State A ==> 22 million voted for X and 3 million voted for Y.
State B ==> 4 million voted for X and 5 million voted for Y.
State C ==> 9 million voted for X and 13 million voted for Y.
State D ==> 12 million voted for X and 3 million voted for Y.
State E ==> 8 million voted for X and 23 million voted for Y.
State F ==> 2 million voted for X and 3 million voted for Y.
State G ==> 11 million voted for X and 8 million voted for Y.

To summarize:

X ==> 22+4+9+12+8+2+11=68 million
Y ==> 3+5+13+3+23+3+8 =58 million

In this case X is the winner. Is this fair or not? See:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/op...ml?ref=opinion

http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...ege/about.html


Ludwik Kowalski,
http://csam.montclair.edu/~kowalski/life/intro.html

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Jennifer23 November 16th, 2012 06:29 PM

Hi Kowalski. I've always thought that a popular vote is the way to go. That would mean that the individual's vote would count, no matter what state.

DACDjr November 18th, 2012 11:30 AM

Agree'd Jen.. With the way it is now, We are "C".... C our way out of the election as our vote don't count... lmao


ahem.... okay byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

IRISH_EYES_99 November 18th, 2012 05:02 PM

No matter who you voted for your vote counted. Your person may or may not have won the election, but your vote counted. I know my vote counted as many that I did vote for got into or were reelected to the office.

Keep voting. Keep doing your homework. Don't let someone do your thinking for you, let them know your thoughts count. :)

Jennifer23 November 18th, 2012 06:06 PM

I live in Maryland Irish, and Md. always votes Democratic. There are local issues to vote for, but as far as the Presidential election goes, my vote doesn't matter. As long as the electoral college exists there will be states that will be automatically Dem or Repub. One possible fix would be this: If a state had 20 electoral votes and the popular vote within that state was 50% to 48%, then each candidate would receive that percentage of the electoral vote (like 11 for the winner and 9 for the loser).

PriscillaMS November 19th, 2012 10:52 AM

Federalist Papers - Hamilton is quite eloquent I think.

Jennifer23 November 19th, 2012 08:55 PM

I'll have to check that out, Priss. Thanks. Alot of those old guys were pretty f'in smart.


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