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Old August 1st, 2002, 02:34 PM   #1
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Old August 1st, 2002, 03:54 PM   #2
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Lesbian Couple Allowed Name Change
Wed Jul 31, 3:26 PM ET
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - In a victory for gay rights, the Ohio Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that a lesbian couple can legally adopt a last name they created.



The court said in a 6-1 vote that Belinda Lou Priddy and Jennifer Lane Bicknell followed all required procedures to change their names and their intent was not fraudulent.

The ruling reversed lower courts' decisions denying the name change.

Appeals courts in New Jersey and Pennsylvania also have considered homosexual and transsexual name-change cases over the past few years, ruling that trial courts cannot arbitrarily deny requests.

In Ohio, lower courts said the couple's new name would be fraudulent because it would give the public the misperception that same-sex marriages were lawful, and therefore violate the state's public policy against such unions.

Justice Alice Robie Resnick wrote in the majority opinion that despite the "unique circumstances involved" in the case, the only issue before the court was whether the couple's request to change their last names was reasonable and proper under state law.

"Any discussion, then, on the sanctity of marriage, the well-being of society, or the state's endorsement of nonmarital cohabitation is wholly inappropriate and without any basis in law or fact," Resnick wrote.

Priddy, 31, and Bicknell, 33, filed individual applications in 1999 to have their last names changed to "Rylen," a name they created by combining several letters from each of their last names.

The couple has lived together for 11 years. Priddy was artificially inseminated and gave birth prematurely to triplets last fall. Two of the children died. The surviving girl, Sarah, has the last name of Rylen.

Both the Butler County Probate Court and the 12th Ohio District Court of Appeals denied their requests to change their name. The couple appealed to the Supreme Court, saying the lower courts violated their rights of equal protection of the law and to raise their children as they determine appropriate.

They did not return a phone message seeking comment on the ruling Wednesday.
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Old February 21st, 2003, 05:15 PM   #3
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Well I hope this post doesn't offend, as I am not a lesbian, but would like your advice.
I have read a long article in my local newspaper about the latest teen music group, called tATu (pronounced tattoo). It was clearly pushing an anti-woman agenda. I tend to dismiss pop trends, but this seemed more!
Isn't there a case for the exploitation of Lesbians by men, and if so isn't it wrong that men are controlling these teenagers? The official music charts all say that they are 'pretend' Lesbians. What does that mean to their fans? Am I being silly? Or have we dumbed down to the next level?!
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Old September 25th, 2003, 08:04 PM   #4
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Hi,
I had never heard of this group, I am lesbian, an older one.....I downloaded some of their music, and of course todays young people's music I cant understand what they say....lol.....anyhow went to their website, found out they are two girls from Russia....no where on the site does it claim they are lesbians...however they do seem to have a lesbian following.....Becasue they have a lesbian following does not mean they are gay.....There are singers here in Canada who may or may not be gay, and they too have a big lesbian group of fans.....I guess it is how one person perceives another....I don't think these young people from Russia should be exploited, but we must remember that the life in Russia is very different from Canada or United States.
The girls may sing songs about gays, and they may appeal to gays, but even I as a lesbian find people like Cher to be my fave singer....and she isn't gay........so no, I don't think they are "pretend lesbians" any more than Cher is....its just who you like, and who you perceive them as.......For instance every gay, man or woman loves Liza Minelli, and Cher, and Celine..so go figure....its a strange world....
Don't know if i have given you any answers.....but hope I have helped you see how some of us lesbians think of singers and entertainers........
I don't think your questions are silly at all.......you are interested in a life style that you are not living in, so there is no harm in asking questions about it.......and its nice to know you are concerned about us....thank you.
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Old September 25th, 2003, 08:36 PM   #5
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I've seen Tatu perform on t.v. ... not sure where the "anti-women" agenda comes in. Not sure if they've ever come out and said whether or not they're actually gay.
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Old September 26th, 2003, 12:51 AM   #6
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I asked my teenager about Tatu. She said that the negative press they receive is because they use their relationship with each other, "pretend" or not, to titillate others, particularly men.

Perhaps then it's no coincidence that there is a huge and discouraging trend in the teen community these days along those lines. At least here in California. It's very "in" and very acceptable to be bisexual but it's being used as enticement and/or excitement for boys. Unfortunately what was once nothing more than teenage experimentation and exploration is being encouraged and egged on by boys. In many instances their first sexual experiences are threesomes. Not only do I think that alone is a very bad idea for many reasons, but once again a generation of girls is learning how to "please" men. It's very distressing.
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Old September 26th, 2003, 01:42 AM   #7
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That is distressing.

I confess to not keeping up with Tatu news...have only seen them once on t.v. and read a couple little blurbs about them.

Your daughter is insightful, Addie!
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Old September 26th, 2003, 02:13 AM   #8
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I've seen some of their performances on film/TV, I've read some of the interviews with them.

They say clearly they are NOT lesbians, they just love each other. Their performances are heavily sexual - their videos usually show them hugging and kissing deeply whatever the subject of the song happens to be. At a song contest in Europe they crawled all over the floor and each other, the song, by the way, had nothing sexual about it as far as I could understand from the lyrics. There was a scandal about it, as the girls wanted to be nude or partially nude during their song but the producers of the show said if they took their clothes off they would be immediately banned from the competition and the girls started complaining about censorship of their love (?!?!) - in any case, after all this hype in the media, it sure upped the ratings of the show.

I was very disappointed, because occasionally in their songs I hear some real talent...and they are totally eclipsing that talent with the media crap exploiting male fantasies about lesbians while saying they're not gay.

I had an acquaintance who had had a relationship with a woman in her life.....afterwards she always told her male lovers she was a lesbian because it turned them on so much....to me that is just way beyond offense and contempt.....
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Old September 26th, 2003, 03:02 AM   #9
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A good article that examines some of these questions:

http://www.sundayherald.com/31089
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Old September 26th, 2003, 09:47 AM   #10
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Addie, the episode of Coupling last night, dealt with the "Oh, btw, I'm a bi-sexual" ....."OH THEN I'M REALLY INTERESTED NOW!" .....theme. And these people aren't teens.....physically that is.
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Old September 26th, 2003, 10:06 AM   #11
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'People visit pornographic sites above all others. I analysed it and found 90% of people using the internet go to porno sites first, and of these nine in 10 are looking for underage entertainment. This means there is big interest as well as some dissatisfaction -- their needs are not being met,' he said last week.
Oh dear god.. Melynn, it's much, much worse than teaching the next generation to please men.. with that fabulous revelation up there, my masters research has been destroyed! *sob*

I wonder how he analyzed that? Apparently I needed to learn more about reputable data sources, because I've got at least 15 articles sitting here that don't say that.

Just out of curiousity.. 'cause I don't know anything about the group.. are they fluent in English?
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Old September 26th, 2003, 02:08 PM   #12
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No clue if they're fluent in English. Aren't most people outside the United States? ;-)

You know, the more I think about this...

What is different about two singers....performers...."playing" lesbians, and an actress "playing" a lesbian on television or in the movies? Why is one acceptable and the other isn't? Aren't they all performers just putting on an act? Having two teenage girls come out on t.v. in a show like "Once & Again," or having two girls kiss on stage during a concert....what's the difference?
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Old September 27th, 2003, 02:15 AM   #13
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I would think the difference might lie in the basics -- audience participation -- in a movie or tv show the audience is passive, and at a concert ppl are involved. We all know the actors are "just playing a role," but we also generally take for granted that what the concert performer tells the public is the truth. I think intentionally leading ppl astray in this way is wrong, especially when it sets an example that took women how many thousands of years to stamp out?
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Old September 27th, 2003, 02:34 AM   #14
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I don't agree that people don't understand that musicians are merely "performers." Come on. Alice Cooper? Ozzy Osbourne? Wendy O'Williams? Marilyn Manson? There's a long history of people acting one way on stage and being another way offstage.

And in the case of Tatu, everyone up above has said they say in interviews they're not lesbians, so how are they not telling the truth?

And THOUSANDS of years? Hmmm...
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Today I saw several pumpkins decorated in the department store.Would you observe some traditional event in Halloween in your country?
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